Please Take Him Home

**micki76** · 12-10-2003, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by aly
micki - I could arrange for him to come into my shelter, but I'm not sure if I could find a foster home. I know a foster is what he needs. I WISH I could do it, but I've got fosters coming out my ears at the moment.

Anyway, if you did end up taking him and things went really bad, there would be the option of coming to my shelter where he'd get wonderful training and socialization even in the shelter.

BUT, since he has been on television several times, I think most rescue groups in Florida would be willing to take him in. They love dogs with a story they can advertise. Even if its further away in Florida, a car transport will be easier than a plane.

I just don't think its fair to ship him to Micki at this point, as there are still options to explore.

Aly I know your shelter is great, but I also know that he needs out of the shelter atmosphere.

I also think that his tv exposure is going to generate a lot of interest. I know when Operation Kindness has dogs on tv with this type of injury, they (along with several other pets) are adopted.

KayAnn, you rock.

If your parents ok it, be careful with Simba. I know how bad it can be with 2 alpha males.

Amber - same Micki

and I'm about to have my fathers fox terrier for several months too. No, my house isn't the right place for Chance, I thought my sister could foster him, but now she's moving into an apartment and we're selling my father's house. She'll be building a house, but it won't be ready until spring.

**Kfamr** · 12-10-2003, 12:43 PM

Originally posted by micki76

KayAnn, you rock. If your parents ok it, be careful with Simba. I know how bad it can be with 2 alpha males.

Yeah. but like I said, simba has come a long ways. He's completely fine with Valerie's Duke in the house and he'd much rather be left alone than mess with other dogs.

**Amber** · 12-10-2003, 12:44 PM

Originally posted by aly
Yeah that part doesn't make sense. Also, since he's big, he'll scare little Millie to death. And poor Chester will think he has his work cut out for him. I would hate to do that to Micki.

Yeah I agree, it's confusing. And plus if Chance comes in he is going to take over the household and mille or chester will feel out of place. I think he would do so much better in Kayanns house, because all the dogs are about the same size. And it would be better because Kay and Val see each other all the time! val could see chance alot.

**micki76** · 12-10-2003, 12:54 PM

Originally posted by aly
Yeah that part doesn't make sense. Also, since he's big, he'll scare little Millie to death. And poor Chester will think he has his work cut out for him. I would hate to do that to Micki.

I really have confidence that KayAnn could help Chance if her parents allow her.

I know, and I'd hate to do it to Chance, too. He'd be in our outdoor kennel all day and in it, or the garage, at night. Not really much better than the shelter. I just wouldn't trust Chester. Although he's come a LONG way, he's still very territorial. He's still only so-so on neutral ground, though he did pretty good with Reece!

On his own turf he's still got massive issues with other dogs. Fortunately he LOVES Bob. It'll be interesting to see how much he loves him when Bob's here instead of at my sister's.

**aly** · 12-10-2003, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by micki76
Aly I know your shelter is great, but I also know that he needs out of the shelter atmosphere.

I also think that his tv exposure is going to generate a lot of interest. I know when Operation Kindness has dogs on tv with this type of injury, they (along with several other pets) are adopted.

Thats what I've been trying to say, hehe. I only meant my shelter as an option so you wouldn't feel stuck if he did end up with you though.

**micki76** · 12-10-2003, 12:57 PM

Originally posted by aly
Thats what I've been trying to say, hehe. I only meant my shelter as an option so you wouldn't feel stuck if he did end up with you though.

I know, and thank you.

Ugh, I have a stomach ache from worry.

**Cinder & Smoke** · 12-10-2003, 01:08 PM

Originally posted by aly
Well,
if he plays with other dogs at the shelter,
I don't see why KayAnn can't try it

Please * NOTE!! *

Chance DOES **NOT** "play" with the other Shelter Dogs!!!!

He is VERY AGGRESSIVE (read NASTY) towards
ANY other dog that does not totally Submit To Him!!

They Do NOT allow him in a run or exercise area with other dogs!
He "interacts" with other dogs from the Opposite Side of a FENCE!

The Shelter will not change their mind -
Chance does NOT belong with other dogs (or Cats, probably)!!

Chance needs a NO Other Animals Foster or FurrEver Home!

Sorry - but that's the Way He IS...
and his Alpha Attitude will NOT be an easy thing to Train him out of!!

We'll be a Lot better off to Search Out a Florida Family
that will be willing to Adopt and Train Chance as an ONLY Animal!

/s/ Phred

**aly** · 12-10-2003, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by Cinder & Smoke
Please * NOTE!! *

Chance DOES **NOT** "play" with the other Shelter Dogs!!!!

He is VERY AGGRESSIVE (read NASTY) towards
ANY other dog that does not totally Submit To Him!!

They Do NOT allow him in a run or exercise area with other dogs!
He "interacts" with other dogs from the Opposite Side of a FENCE!

The Shelter will not change their mind -
Chance does NOT belong with other dogs (or Cats, probably)!!

Chance needs a NO Other Animals Foster or FurrEver Home!

Sorry - but that's the Way He IS...
and his Alpha Attitude will NOT be an easy thing to Train him out of!!

We'll be a Lot better off to Search Out a Florida Family
that will be willing to Adopt and Train Chance as an ONLY Animal!

/s/ Phred

I READ those parts about Chance and UNDERSTAND that. HOWEVER, this is what you said in a previous post

She said he's an Alpha Personality with other Dogs - if the other submits to him - he's Mr. Personality with the Wiggley Butt.
But he can't stand another Alpha Dog!

SO that lead me to believe he is able to play with submissive dogs.

I still stand by my statement that KayAnn should try it. I've had years upon years of experience dealing with shelter dogs with very similar issues. You would be VERY surprised at how behaviour can change OUTSIDE the shelter. TRUST ME.

**dukedogsmom** · 12-10-2003, 01:56 PM

He interacted with other dogs at the day care place and was fine. Please Phred, respect my privacy in not naming places I frequent. Remember that this is the internet and thousands of people come here. Now, I'm worried more about Chance now. Aly, I don't have a shedule to where I can visit him every day, or I would. And I have done other things to try to find him a home. On 12/3 he was on tv and no one adopted him. He was at the adoptathon this past Saturday. Still nothing. He was advertised a lot on the radio today. I just don't want his time to run out. I'll be able to see him on Saturday. I think he gets along fine with Duke, though he's never been to my house. I live with parents so they didn't want another dog in the house. They helped me for a while now I'm able to help them so that's why I'm staying home. I guess I really hope KayAnn can do it. I'd be close to him and know he was getting the very best treatment.

**Kfamr** · 12-10-2003, 02:14 PM

Val ~~ I made this for you and for Chance.

**aly** · 12-10-2003, 02:16 PM

I know you're doing all you can, Valerie. Keep up the great work!

Thats great news he got along with Duke. I somehow had a feeling there wouldn't be any problems. Now.. we all need to sweet talk KayAnn's parents!

**Kfamr** · 12-10-2003, 02:19 PM

Anyone else thinking I should print out "Chance wants to come and visit" signs all over the house?

**K9soul** · 12-10-2003, 02:20 PM

I too would love to see him end up with KayAnn. We all know he'd have the wonderful care he needs and deserves there. My experience has been that with a little time and love, most dogs can be surprisingly adaptable. It might be a bit rocky at first but once everyone established their place in the "pack" I think things would go fine.

I know all of us here would also love to continue to see him and have updates on him.

Paws and fingers crossed for Chance-pup. X

**dukedogsmom** · 12-10-2003, 02:20 PM

That is so cute, KayAnn! I just didn't want you to have to ask your parents because the dogs already take up a lot of room and I didn't want them to feel pressured. But, I know Chance would have a great place to stay and even if you couldn't keep him forever, at least he could get some training and wouldn't have a set time limit and would be out of the shelter atmosphere.